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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 14:14:08 GMT -5
--------- can get this stickied... But I figured that with the biggest Pay-Per-View of the year, we'd allow it its own thread in the coming 40-or-so days, and then the big day itself, and then WrestleMANIA!!!!!!!! Talk about the matches that will take place, your picks, your thoughts, what you're looking forward to, what they SHOULD do (our bookers like RED and Professor Berch would love this), and what you expect to happen as we lead up to the biggest day on WWE's calendar. Then of course during the show, we'll have live commentary if anyone's up for that. And afterwards we can reflect.
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Post by Joey on Feb 23, 2016 14:24:22 GMT -5
I kind of somewhat doubt it'll actually be Shane vs. Taker. I can feel Shane picking someone (Finn Balor? John Cena?) to face Taker in his place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 14:58:30 GMT -5
I kind of somewhat doubt it'll actually be Shane vs. Taker. I can feel Shane picking someone ( Finn Balor? John Cena?) to face Taker in his place. I see someone's reading someone else's booker... But nah, they wouldn't do that to the fans. Shane's a face and backing out of this match would kill everything. If that happens, that'll make a lot of people upset... I don't expect him to win either tbh, but this will be a match one loves to see.
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Post by Joey on Feb 23, 2016 17:21:25 GMT -5
I kind of somewhat doubt it'll actually be Shane vs. Taker. I can feel Shane picking someone ( Finn Balor? John Cena?) to face Taker in his place. I see someone's reading someone else's booker... But nah, they wouldn't do that to the fans. Shane's a face and backing out of this match would kill everything. If that happens, that'll make a lot of people upset... I don't expect him to win either tbh, but this will be a match one loves to see. I don't see Shane losing, it would be stupid because why have Shane even come back if The Authority is going to remain in power? Just silly. Something that would be interesting is say, Shane jumping off the cell and the match not having a decisive finish and the next night, Taker hauls out a battered Shane much to Vince's delight but turns face and takes the pin so Shane still gets Raw but Taker doesn't lose at Mania. Probably some fantasy booking right there but would be more interesting than Taker winning clean and The Authority storyline continuing for the 3rd straight year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 17:44:14 GMT -5
I see someone's reading someone else's booker... But nah, they wouldn't do that to the fans. Shane's a face and backing out of this match would kill everything. If that happens, that'll make a lot of people upset... I don't expect him to win either tbh, but this will be a match one loves to see. I don't see Shane losing, it would be stupid because why have Shane even come back if The Authority is going to remain in power? Just silly. Something that would be interesting is say, Shane jumping off the cell and the match not having a decisive finish and the next night, Taker hauls out a battered Shane much to Vince's delight but turns face and takes the pin so Shane still gets Raw but Taker doesn't lose at Mania. Probably some fantasy booking right there but would be more interesting than Taker winning clean and The Authority storyline continuing for the 3rd straight year. That scenario would be pretty, pretty cool. It all depends on if Undertaker wants this to be his final Mania or wants another go at it in 2017, which I never imagined saying 3-5 years ago. But with the lack of depth, and more importantly Cena's injury, I wouldn't be surprised if Shane's return is just to get on WrestleMania and this is his last hoorah he never got. I don't know if he's changed his mind about focusing on other things rather than WWE, but it wouldn't shock me in the least. Why else would Shane even return and wrestle if he couldn't have control of Raw, so that stipulation doesn't surprise me, as he needs something to fight for at Mania. Basically, I see it as a 50-50 split and it can go either way, but I won't be disappointed.
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Post by RED on Feb 23, 2016 17:48:55 GMT -5
Shane vs. Taker is beyond ridiculous. So Undertaker is just going to do Vince's dirty work? It's too soon to judge of course but they better work on the build up because right now I couldn't care less about this one.
And Triple H is now getting a babyface reaction while Roman who is the face gets the beating of his life and the crowd loves it? Yeah, this is reaaaaly working out.
Thank God we've got Ambrose vs. Lesnar as this is the only match on the card that I am looking forward to see so far. Have AJ Styles challenge KO for the Intercontinental title, put the tag team belts in a Fatal 4 Way Tag Team Ladder match, give Sasha the Divas title match and I'm hyped up for Mania.
Can't really guess what the Wyatts are going to do at WrestleMania now that they killed their momentum just to make Rybotch look strong for his heel turn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 17:53:40 GMT -5
Shane vs. Taker is beyond ridiculous. So Undertaker is just going to do Vince's dirty work? It's too soon to judge of course but they better work on the build up because right now I couldn't care less about this one. And Triple H is now getting a babyface reaction while Roman who is the face gets the beating of his life and the crowd loves it? Yeah, this is reaaaaly working out. Thank God we've got Ambrose vs. Lesnar as this is the only match on the card that I am looking forward to see so far. Have AJ Styles challenge KO for the Intercontinental title, put the tag team belts in a Fatal 4 Way Tag Team Ladder match, give Sasha the Divas title match and I'm hyped up for Mania. Can't really guess what the Wyatts are going to do at WrestleMania now that they killed their momentum just to make Rybotch look strong for his heel turn. Well think about it, didn't Vince just turn 70? (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) ... Plus, Triple H is wrestling, so it wouldn't make sense for both Vince and Triple H to wrestle at Mania on the same night, as that's overdoing it a little. Yeah, the fans hate Reigns and it's no surprise. They should've given this to Ambrose, even if you are excited for Ambrose/Lesnar. The other title matches you suggested I would LOVE to see though, well, depending on who is in the Fatal-4 way... But btw, you forgot to even mention Kalisto's title. And still soooooooooo upset for The Wyatt Family jobbing at Fastlane because it made zero sense. Watch, I wouldn't be surprised if Kane and Big Show recruit two other giants (maybe Mark Henry and someone else) to wrestle The Wyatts in an 8-man tag at Mania... If it happens, that'd be a huge bummer.
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Post by Joey on Feb 23, 2016 17:57:55 GMT -5
I don't see Shane losing, it would be stupid because why have Shane even come back if The Authority is going to remain in power? Just silly. Something that would be interesting is say, Shane jumping off the cell and the match not having a decisive finish and the next night, Taker hauls out a battered Shane much to Vince's delight but turns face and takes the pin so Shane still gets Raw but Taker doesn't lose at Mania. Probably some fantasy booking right there but would be more interesting than Taker winning clean and The Authority storyline continuing for the 3rd straight year. That scenario would be pretty, pretty cool. It all depends on if Undertaker wants this to be his final Mania or wants another go at it in 2017, which I never imagined saying 3-5 years ago. But with the lack of depth, and more importantly Cena's injury, I wouldn't be surprised if Shane's return is just to get on WrestleMania and this is his last hoorah he never got. I don't know if he's changed his mind about focusing on other things rather than WWE, but it wouldn't shock me in the least. Why else would Shane even return and wrestle if he couldn't have control of Raw, so that stipulation doesn't surprise me, as he needs something to fight for at Mania. Basically, I see it as a 50-50 split and it can go either way, but I won't be disappointed. I'd be extremely disappointed if The Authority continued when it should have been done permanently after Survivor Series a year and a half ago in 2014 but maybe that's just me.
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Post by RED on Feb 23, 2016 18:04:25 GMT -5
Shane vs. Taker is beyond ridiculous. So Undertaker is just going to do Vince's dirty work? It's too soon to judge of course but they better work on the build up because right now I couldn't care less about this one. And Triple H is now getting a babyface reaction while Roman who is the face gets the beating of his life and the crowd loves it? Yeah, this is reaaaaly working out. Thank God we've got Ambrose vs. Lesnar as this is the only match on the card that I am looking forward to see so far. Have AJ Styles challenge KO for the Intercontinental title, put the tag team belts in a Fatal 4 Way Tag Team Ladder match, give Sasha the Divas title match and I'm hyped up for Mania. Can't really guess what the Wyatts are going to do at WrestleMania now that they killed their momentum just to make Rybotch look strong for his heel turn. Well think about it, didn't Vince just turn 70? (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) ... Plus, Triple H is wrestling, so it wouldn't make sense for both Vince and Triple H to wrestle at Mania on the same night, as that's overdoing it a little. Yeah, the fans hate Reigns and it's no surprise. They should've given this to Ambrose, even if you are excited for Ambrose/Lesnar. The other title matches you suggested I would LOVE to see though, well, depending on who is in the Fatal-4 way... But btw, you forgot to even mention Kalisto's title. And still soooooooooo upset for The Wyatt Family jobbing at Fastlane because it made zero sense. Watch, I wouldn't be surprised if Kane and Big Show recruit two other giants (maybe Mark Henry and someone else) to wrestle The Wyatts in an 8-man tag at Mania... If it happens, that'd be a huge bummer. I doubt we'll get another round of Titans vs. Wyatts. They might as well just toss them all into the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal and be done with it. I never said that Vince should wrestle. His time is up. I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than watch Vince wrestle again. But out of all possible superstars that he could find to face Shane he had to go and pick Undertaker? Even Bray Wyatt would have been a better choice. Undertaker vs. Shane is completely random at the moment while Bray and his family are used to having random feuds. Or Ryback now that he is turning heel. He would be an ok merc for hire.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 18:16:28 GMT -5
That scenario would be pretty, pretty cool. It all depends on if Undertaker wants this to be his final Mania or wants another go at it in 2017, which I never imagined saying 3-5 years ago. But with the lack of depth, and more importantly Cena's injury, I wouldn't be surprised if Shane's return is just to get on WrestleMania and this is his last hoorah he never got. I don't know if he's changed his mind about focusing on other things rather than WWE, but it wouldn't shock me in the least. Why else would Shane even return and wrestle if he couldn't have control of Raw, so that stipulation doesn't surprise me, as he needs something to fight for at Mania. Basically, I see it as a 50-50 split and it can go either way, but I won't be disappointed. I'd be extremely disappointed if The Authority continued when it should have been done permanently after Survivor Series a year and a half ago in 2014 but maybe that's just me. I get where you're coming from, I really do. They should've been done and how The Authority was brought back into power was bad, and if they had that plan from the get-go, it was a really bad one. The Authority will eventually be overthrown, somehow, someway, but I am not entirely convinced it happens at WrestleMania. But a very interesting thought just popped into my mind that Shane versus Taker can be the closer to WrestleMania 32, instead of Triple H and Roman Reigns... That'd be something WWE should look into, considering the fans will likely boo and troll Reigns and the world title match, while fans will be ballistic for Shane McMahon and The Undertaker.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 18:20:12 GMT -5
Well think about it, didn't Vince just turn 70? (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that) ... Plus, Triple H is wrestling, so it wouldn't make sense for both Vince and Triple H to wrestle at Mania on the same night, as that's overdoing it a little. Yeah, the fans hate Reigns and it's no surprise. They should've given this to Ambrose, even if you are excited for Ambrose/Lesnar. The other title matches you suggested I would LOVE to see though, well, depending on who is in the Fatal-4 way... But btw, you forgot to even mention Kalisto's title. And still soooooooooo upset for The Wyatt Family jobbing at Fastlane because it made zero sense. Watch, I wouldn't be surprised if Kane and Big Show recruit two other giants (maybe Mark Henry and someone else) to wrestle The Wyatts in an 8-man tag at Mania... If it happens, that'd be a huge bummer. I doubt we'll get another round of Titans vs. Wyatts. They might as well just toss them all into the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal and be done with it. I never said that Vince should wrestle. His time is up. I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than watch Vince wrestle again. But out of all possible superstars that he could find to face Shane he had to go and pick Undertaker? Even Bray Wyatt would have been a better choice. Undertaker vs. Shane is completely random at the moment while Bray and his family are used to having random feuds. Or Ryback now that he is turning heel. He would be an ok merc for hire. Well if they had put Ryback, it would've had to of been held off for a week because Ryback's turn came later in the show. However, The Undertaker is not a bad choice. Look at The Undertaker's resume at WrestleMania, and it speaks for itself. Vince has stacked the odds against Shane and we have to tune in to find out if Undertaker will lose a second Mania match, or if The Authority remains in power because Shane McMahon lost his return match to WWE. It plays out nicely because Undertaker, though not your "heel" like Bray or Ryback, he'll have the utmost intentions on winning at WrestleMania, and we've seen face-vs-face matches with Taker at WrestleMania look, going back to his bouts with Triple H and Shawn Michaels, where HBK and Triple H had things to fight for at the time as well.
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Post by Joey on Feb 23, 2016 18:28:18 GMT -5
I'd be extremely disappointed if The Authority continued when it should have been done permanently after Survivor Series a year and a half ago in 2014 but maybe that's just me. I get where you're coming from, I really do. They should've been done and how The Authority was brought back into power was bad, and if they had that plan from the get-go, it was a really bad one. The Authority will eventually be overthrown, somehow, someway, but I am not entirely convinced it happens at WrestleMania. But a very interesting thought just popped into my mind that Shane versus Taker can be the closer to WrestleMania 32, instead of Triple H and Roman Reigns... That'd be something WWE should look into, considering the fans will likely boo and troll Reigns and the world title match, while fans will be ballistic for Shane McMahon and The Undertaker. I just really don't see how and why The Authority's demise wouldn't come at WrestleMania (THE BIGGEST EVENT OF THE YEAR) but rather on some obscure Raw or PPV?
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Post by RED on Feb 23, 2016 18:31:05 GMT -5
Yeah but the Undertaker has no motive. Why would he work for Vince? Why compete in this match in the first place? It's like he is only a guy that Vince told - not asked - to do something for him. It doesn't feel like an Undertaker WrestleMania match. I refuse to compare this to the rivalries he had with HBK, HHH and CM Punk in the past. But again, I guess we all need to give this some time to get the build up going at the end of the day because it is what Vince wants it to be. To me it just shows that the WWE is desperate to add big matches at WrestleMania given to how many people are injured and the negative reaction the main event is already receiving.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 18:33:36 GMT -5
I get where you're coming from, I really do. They should've been done and how The Authority was brought back into power was bad, and if they had that plan from the get-go, it was a really bad one. The Authority will eventually be overthrown, somehow, someway, but I am not entirely convinced it happens at WrestleMania. But a very interesting thought just popped into my mind that Shane versus Taker can be the closer to WrestleMania 32, instead of Triple H and Roman Reigns... That'd be something WWE should look into, considering the fans will likely boo and troll Reigns and the world title match, while fans will be ballistic for Shane McMahon and The Undertaker. I just really don't see how and why The Authority's demise wouldn't come at WrestleMania (THE BIGGEST EVENT OF THE YEAR) but rather on some obscure Raw or PPV? Hey, for the record, you brought up the Raw scenario! lol And any way the Authority loses power, it'll make that show huge. I'm not necessarily saying WrestleMania isn't the best place to do it, but does Mania REALLY need it, or does another PPV or Raw need the ratings and viewership more?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 18:36:39 GMT -5
Yeah but the Undertaker has no motive. Why would he work for Vince? Why compete in this match in the first place? It's like he is only a guy that Vince told - not asked - to do something for him. It doesn't feel like an Undertaker WrestleMania match. I refuse to compare this to the rivalries he had with HBK, HHH and CM Punk in the past. But again, I guess we all need to give this some time to get the build up going at the end of the day because it is what Vince wants it to be. To me it just shows that the WWE is desperate to add big matches at WrestleMania given to how many people are injured and the negative reaction the main event is already receiving. Yeah, the segment obviously happened at the top of the show to get people on a high for the first two hours, and they didn't completely troll Roman Reigns at the end lol WWE is desperate because all the injuries, and I go out on a limb and say if John Cena isn't injured, they're putting him against Taker, or maybe even Sting if he's not hurt and going into the Hall. But the fans have been clamoring for Shane to come back for YEARS, and it finally happens, so he could wrestle El Torito at WrestleMania and the majority would be interested lol. I think the buildup will be useful though, as who knows, maybe Undertaker comes out and says he won't do it, and Vince puts more than just Taker's WrestleMania reputation on the table for Undertaker to collect if he goes through and wins.
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